there is no similiarity. these are two exclusive tribes. dravidians are the people who constitute the southern states of india and srilanka. aryans You probably have umpteen nice things in you. I hope, there are many more like you and who also share. [67][68] The discovery in Tamil Nadu of a late Neolithic (early 2nd millennium BCE, i.e. Divorce vs. Talaq: What's the difference? This proves Aryan invasion theory was wrong. The Dravidian languages have a decimal system. One such place was India, protected from the chilling Arctic winds by the Himalayas, that also acted as a large reservoir of water. QUESTION : What are the differences between Aryans and Dravidians? ANSWER : Difference between Aryans and Dravidians as elucidated. 1) Place of Ori If one rejects the term Aryan, one should better speak only of Tamilian, not Dravidian. The word Arya had great attraction for the Europeans, who used the word to create, one of the greatest fictional race of this world, the Aryans', with none of the arya qualities and complete illiterates with no script of there own. [89] According to Zvelebil, "several scholars have demonstrated that pre-Indo-Aryan and pre-Dravidian bilingualism in India provided conditions for the far-reaching influence of Dravidian on the Indo-Aryan tongues in the spheres of phonology, syntax and vocabulary. QUESTION : What are the differences between Aryans and Dravidians? The formation of the Royal Asiatic Society of Bengal took place in 1784, that was followed by Socitie Asiatique of Paris in 1822, Royal Asiatic Society of G.B. These tribal Dravidian languages preserve more archaic forms than the literary Dravidian languages of South India. Carnatic music originated in the Dravidian region. The historian, Van Loon,wasn't the only one to have indulged in tracing the journey of this magical race, who in the end got the name Aryan. The Agamas are non-Vedic in origin[92] and have been dated either as post-Vedic texts[93] or as pre-Vedic compositions. Dravidian visual art is dominated by stylised temple architecture in major centres, and the production of images on stone and bronze sculptures. [96] Early iconography of Murugan[97] and Sivan[98][99][100] and their association with native flora and fauna goes back to the Indus Valley Civilisation. Many of these primitive megaliths are NOT sepulchral but has been found to have been created with mathematical and astronomical perfection. The corruption is an outright mismanagement of the nation's business. I guess, the writers or speakers of the IVC script rode horses at the Indus. As we know, the God was concerned about the intentions of the humans, now gave them different speeches, made them quarrel with each other, and The Great Dispersion took place in 2000BC. This mother goddess was conceived as a virgin, one who has given birth to all and one, and were typically associated with Shaktism. Imagine being a Kashmiri/Punjabi aryan and sharing a country with people who look like this. "[57], Asko Parpola, who regards the Harappans to have been Dravidian, notes that Mehrgarh (7000BCE to c. 2500BCE), to the west of the Indus River valley,[58] is a precursor of the Indus Valley Civilisation, whose inhabitants migrated into the Indus Valley and became the Indus Valley Civilisation. Wouldn't you like to know that Indian cattle have HUMPS on their backs (ZEBU-BOS INDICUS), and the European cattle (Longhorn, Hereford, BOS TAURUS) have no humps on their backs! They were certainly not the Aryans the Conquistadores of the 'A World History' nor the Dravidians, docile little brown men of Van Loon. Dravidians also live in central India and other countries like Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. Prakrit. I am, perhaps, missing the point, Ben, that you are trying to make, please clarify. The last time the linguists went to work to decipher a script was in respect of the Egyptian hieroglyphic script, i.e. A very interesting story about Agatsya Muni would explain the meaning of the word 'dravid'. Early Dravidian influence accounts for several of the innovative traits in Indic better than any internal explanation that has been proposed. The melting of the ice created lakes and filled the rivers, in turn, the water was emptied in the sea, raising the sea level. 1942), it is stated that 'it is important to remember that Aryan denotes the primary language, from which many different ancient and modern languages are descended'. In the Telugu phrase (superscript numbers denote matching Telugu and English words) rmayya1 pulin2 campu3 Ramayya1 killed3 a tiger2 can be shifted to create a nonfinite relative clause rmayya1campina2 puli 3 the tiger3 that Ramayya1 killed2, or pulini1 campina2 rmayya3 Ramayya3 who killed2 the tiger1.. The present population is greatly affected by the D & R Policy, the main basis being the AIT. Telugu has a nativelike form wyi 1,000, but its etymology is uncertain. or by adding an interrogative particle (*-) to the phrase or clause questioned. (2013) describe three scenarios regarding the Peopling of India: According to Gallego Romero et al. It was the first step. Day People vs. Night People: What do they do? This represents an early religious and cultural fusion[79][note 3] or synthesis[81] between ancient Dravidians and Indo-Aryans, which became more evident over time with sacred iconography, traditions, philosophy, flora and fauna that went on to influence and shape Indian civilisation. Some linguists explain this anomaly by arguing that Middle Indo-Aryan and New Indo-Aryan were built on a Dravidian substratum. He provided The Ark to his beloved Noah. All of them are equally important, therefore, no one is higher or lower than the other. WebThe difference between the so-called Aryans of the north and Dravidians of the south is not a racial division. The third-person pronouns are derived from deictic bases *aH- that, *iH- this, and *yaH- what.. NOW, excavations has shown that great towns flourished as long ago as 3000 BC'. Aryans have mingled with the authentic Indian population, so no one can be characterized as a pure Dravidian or as a pure Aryan. Anybody can answer that the color of the skin has nothing to do with one's intelligence, nor with the goodness of their hearts. The most notable Carnatic musician is Purandara Dasa who lived in the court of Krishnadevaraya of the Vijayanagara empire. In the first para of the subject for comparison, it is stated that 'Aryans have mingled with the authentic Indian population, so no one can be characterized as a pure Dravidian or as a pure Aryan'. Ancient Dravidian religion constituted of an animistic and non-Vedic form of religion which may have influenced the gamas, Vedic and non-Vedic texts[92] which post-date the Vedic texts. In 1856, while the first rail-road through the Indus River Valley was being built, two brothers found the ruins of ancient cities in a jungle area. [72], Linguist Asko Parpola writes that the Indus script and Harappan language are "most likely to have belonged to the Dravidian family". This designation is not restricted by the shade of the skin, knowledge, wisdom, wealth, profession nor sex. The British had representation in India in the form of British East India Co. Now the British, around 1776, had to leave America, they desired to concentrate in India. [73] Parpola led a Finnish team in investigating the inscriptions using computer analysis. The Aryans had no word for brick in their language. These are his exact words: 'A new and more energetic race appeared upon the horizon - Indo-European race - made itself the ruling class in the country, which is now known as British India'. This system is preserved by the languages of Central Dravidian and South-Central Dravidian (other than Telugu). The East India Company specially recruited people of such caliber as Max Muller (1847) and Pandit Taranath (1866), to make such translations that would be detrimental to Hindu culture. The linguists did not achieve success until Napoleon Bonaparte came along and conquered Egypt in 1779, brought home, a Rosetta Stone, that enabled the linguists to decipher the Egyptian script. Stella Kramrisch (1976), The Hindu Temple Volume 1 & 2, Tillotson, G. H. R. (1997). Dr Ambedkarji examined the Rigveda - supposedly the First Book of the Aryans as per Max Muller, written in 1000 BC. Should not the history books be corrected as soon as possible? The major grammatical categories are nouns and verbs. had 4582% Iranian farmer-related ancestry and 1150% AASI (or Andamanese-related hunter-gatherer ancestry). The word 'Dravid" implies to a person who is the knower(drasta) of knowledge (Vidya), or a person from whom the knowledge flows. Thus, the ground work was already laid when Lord Macaulay visited India around 1835 to study the educational needs of the Indians. (2009) principally reflects gene flow from Iran and the Middle East". WebThe features of the people of this race are a broad head? It was impossible to cross, however, Vindhya had great respect for the Muni, he agreed to lower its heights to allow them to cross, and further agreed that he would stay at that height to allow them to return when the task is completed. However, because Aryans were not able to force the evacuation of all Dravidians to Southern India, some became slaves of Aryans and still reside in Northern India. There are evidences that many rituals which may seem Hindu today has been loaned from a prior tribal source. While Pali and Prakrits were not used by Brahmins, both Pali and Prakrits were IndoAryan languages and ultimately derived from Vedic Sanskrit, which seems to have been brought by MLBA-rich people from Central Asia. Medieval South Indian guilds and trading organisations like the "Ayyavole of Karnataka and Manigramam" played an important role in the Southeast Asia trade,[27] and the cultural Indianisation of the region. Revision - Guess-work needs to be discarded and correct history needs to be taught in schools. Some scholars consider this type as representing the Proto-Dravidian gender system. [61] They further noted that "the direct lineal descendants of the Neolithic inhabitants of Mehrgarh are to be found to the south and the east of Mehrgarh, in northwestern India and the western edge of the Deccan plateau", with neolithic Mehrgarh showing greater affinity with chalocolithic Inamgaon, south of Mehrgarh, than with chalcolithic Mehrgarh.[61]. [110] In the Sangam literature, there is an elaborate description of the rites performed by the Kurava priestess in the shrine Palamutircholai. These people are supposed to have come to India from the trans-Himalayan regions through the river valleys. Or were they all dark-skinned people? The study further showed that the native South Asians, north and south, form a unique group distinct from "Australo-Melanesians". People from the sub-continent have been going to far-away lands all the time, as well as the people of other lands have come to India for variety of reasons. Original Sanskrit scriptures are only found in India. In support of the above, Spencer Wells, in his book, The Journey of Man - A Genetic Odyssey (2002), tried to establish that the source of the human gene was in Africa. What interests do the people of India have, to continue with the British policy after the Independence? Or maybe the Sanskrit language originated in the modern civilization of the Indus. Every noun has an oblique stem in the singular and plural that is formed by the addition of a suffix (derived from Proto-Dravidian *i, *a, *tt, or *n or a combination of these, in addition to a zero suffix []) to which non-nominative case markers are added. It includes Caucasians and also their sub-race. In the last century or two, cross-breeding has taken place in the West. It must be, because we are Aryans the Barbarians, and Dravidians the Squat Creatures! The article seems to be a consequence of erroneous scholariness and faulty research. In complex sentences, the main verb clause occupies the final position and is preceded by subordinate clauses that end in nonfinite verbs (those that are perfective, durative, conditional, concessive, and so on). There are around 250 million native speakers of Dravidian languages. Phonological features of Dravidian languages, Historical development of Dravidian phonology, South-Central Dravidian phonological development, Central Dravidian phonological development. Dravidians have a different set of ethnic beliefs. The Aryans are trying to rule the world thjrough their International Aryan League. Each of the major Dravidian languages has its own film industry like Kollywood (Tamil), Tollywood (Telugu), Sandalwood (Kannada), Mollywood (Malayalam). [56] Gallego Romero notes that Indians who are lactose-tolerant show a genetic pattern regarding this tolerance which is "characteristic of the common European mutation". Just as the Europeans were attracted by the word 'Arya' (nobleness), so were the Indians, as the word indicated the character and behavior of a person. The Sri Ranganathaswamy Temple located in Indian state of Tamil Nadu is often considered as the largest functioning Hindu temple in the world. These elements were incorporated later into Hinduism like the legendary marriage of Shiva to Queen Mntchi who ruled Madurai or Wanji-ko, a god who later merged into Indra. [29] In Prakrit, words such as "Damela", "Dameda", "Dhamila" and "Damila", which later evolved from "Tamila", could have been used to denote an ethnic identity. The river had dried up around 1800 BC, where as it was in its full glory as far back as 3000 BC and earlier. This led to the loss of the original inclusive-exclusive difference (later restored through fresh innovations) and was followed by a restructuring of the pronominal system in the first person. Webshow no Dravidian ethnic features whatever, and are not easily distinguishable from the other peoples of the region. As noted above, in most of the languages, adverbs of time and place carry case inflection like nouns but lack gender and number distinction. WebDravidian and Indo-Aryan (Indo-Iranian) are language groups, not clans or cultures. Institute of Indology in Berlin and Bonn Uni in Germany, Edinburgh, Oxford, Cambridge and London unis in G.B., Yale, John Hopkins, and Columbia Unis in the U.S.A. and College de France. Aryan and Dravidian was the British colonial propaganda, they used this theory to attack basic of Hinduism and Indian nationalism. No such thing ha Aryans have a north Indian accent whereas Dravidians have a south Indian accent. Agatsya Muni was all set, ready to go with his work-force and equipment. The Europeans went to South Africa. Many genetecists and other scientists including Inians deny the theory of Aryan invasion in India.The author opinion is based on 19 century tradition of British imperial science.Read Out of eaden by Oppenheimer. It is now upto the people of the sub-continent, whether they should fight amongst each other making COLOR an issue, thus, supporting the Divide & Rule policy of their past rulers, indirecly, in your words, the International Aryan League. The historians wanted to create knowledge credibility for these Illiterates (Frawley's Paradox). A third inscription in Kanheri Caves refers to a Dhamila-gharini (Tamil house-holder). The British adopted different tactics, resulted in the now famous policy of Divide and Rule. He says that, 'u ntil 1922, we had few records of human life in India older than the days of the Aryan-speaking invaders apart from a handful of scattered relics of the Stone Age. [122] The theatrical culture flourished during the early Sangam age. Rigveda is a huge scripture, consisting of ten books. Aryans have a north Indian accent whereas Dravidians have a south Indian accent. What do the historians say about the ancestors of the Aryans? [65] Already in 1924, when announcing the discovery of the IVC, John Marshall stated that (one of) the language(s) may have been Dravidic. Whatever the purpose of these societies, the universities were not to be left behind. [121], Literary evidence of traditional form of theatre, dance and music dates back to the 3rd century BCE. This would explain that the color of the skin is not necessarily the uniting factor. In addition, adjectives precede the nouns they qualify, nouns carry postpositions and not prepositions, adverbs precede verbs, and auxiliaries follow the main verb. [103] The king was 'the representative of God on earth' and lived in a "koyil", which means the "residence of a god". They may have been indigenous to the Indian subcontinent, but origins in, or influence from, western Asia have also been proposed. Murugan (also known as Seyyon) was glorified as the red god seated on the blue peacock, who is ever young and resplendent, as the favoured god of the Tamils. In fact, until the late 19th century most Kerala women did not wear any upper garments, or were forced to by law, and in many villages, especially in tribal communities, the sari is worn without the blouse. All rights reserved (2019) shows that the native South Asian genetic component is distinct from the Andamanese and thus that the Andamanese (Onge) are an imperfect and imprecise proxy for "ASI" ancestry in South Asians (there is difficulty detecting ASI ancestry in the North Indian Gujarati when the Andamanese Onge are used). Aryavrita, Aryadesh, Aryalok, Aryasamaj and Aryarit. Aryans were fair skinned, tall, and spoke a different language from Dravidians who were dark, short and spoke Dravidian language. Proto-Dravidian *to/*to occurs in compounds with the words for 10, 100, 1,000 as second members with the meaning 1/10th lesscomparable to Tamil to-u 90 (or 10 less 100), toyiram 900 (100 less 1,000), and on-pattu 9 (1 less 10). However, Telugu tom-badi (from *to-pat) 90 implies that *to means 9. The South Dravidian languages have cognates that support the first, 1/10th less, meaning. Examples are the Madisar, specific to Tamil Brahmin Community, and the Mundum Neriyathum. Brahmin Dalits tribals all DNA are same. The Rigveda was the so-called First Book of the Aryans. Mudumby Narasimhachary (Ed) (1976). Dr S R Rao, formerly the head of the Archaeological Survey of India, was free of the narrow vision of the past Indo-logists. The Proto-Dravidian gender was presumably masculine versus non-masculine, in both the singular and the plural. Thus when the Aryans the Invisibles, sorry, the Invincible, came to India, the river did not exist. suggest that the South Indian tribal Paniya people would serve as a better proxy than the Andamanese (Onge) for the "native South Asian" component in modern South Asians. He collected all the possible different signs on the seals - separated them between simple signs and letters with additional signs. My response is based on today not the past. Past is where we came from but we live today and tomorrow. Other than the languages spoken, fundamental The Egyptian priests used the Hieratic script, where as the common men used Demotic script. Nouns carry number and gender and are inflected for case (role in the sentence, such as subject, direct object, or indirect object), as are pronouns and numerals, which are subclasses of nouns. The word 'arya' was part of the words, e.g. He notes that there are two scenarios for the origin and spread of Dravidians. To-day, the population of India has reached a billion mark. In contrast, South Dravidian had a three-way distinction in the singular (masculine, feminine, neuter) and a two-way distinction in the plural (human, nonhuman). He further states that, 'by the year 1619 AD, a million or more black slaves had already been brought to the Spanish and Portuguese colonies in the Caribbean and South America'. It was decided that the area south of the Vindhya would be suitable. [14][15][16][17][18] Their origins are often viewed as being connected with the Indus Valley civilisation,[10][18][19] hence people and language spread east and southwards after the demise of the Indus Valley Civilisation in the early second millennium BCE,[20][21] some propose not long before the arrival of Indo-Aryan speakers,[22] with whom they intensively interacted. Based on a proto-Dravidian assumption, they proposed readings of many signs, some agreeing with the suggested readings of Heras and Knorozov (such as equating the "fish" sign with the Dravidian word for fish, "min") but disagreeing on several other readings. David Frawley, a historian, too, expressed his amazement at the 'changing scenario' in the following words: 'There is a vast literature without archeology or even geography (home) for the Vedic Aryans, where as, vast archeology without literature for the literate Harrappans! #notmypresident. In Dravidian, gender is primarily determined by the meaning of the noun or pronoun and secondarily by certain formal features. The Dravidian movement and Aryan illusions. Thus, my arya friends, you are not only the provider of zero-based decimal system, but also, the alphabets of the world. migrations before the development of agriculture (8,0009,000 years before present (BP)); migration of western Asian people together with the spread of agriculture, maybe up to 4,600 years BP; migrations of western Eurasians from 3,000 to 4,000 years BP. One of the events mentioned in the Mahabharat is Lord Krishna's instructions to his Sarthi, to go to Dwarika to inform the citizens, of the imminent submergence of the city due to rise in sea-level. The framers of the fiction of the Aryans still had some way to go. Dept. The finding of the horse bones at Harappa, nor the picture of the horse on the seals, were sufficient to the Indo-logists to accept the existence of horses in India. WebHistorical language contact between the Indo-Aryan and Dravidian languages of South Asia has been written about extensively. The dilema of the historians continue. 469654 >>469652 even african 'people' look better than this monster Major Yeats-Brown, in his book Pageant of India, states in a literary fashion as follows : The budding was in the unknown mother-land, somewhere in the uplands of central Asia, whence these tall, blue-eyed people sallied forth in search of grazing lands. [25] They were preceded by a mixture of AASI (Ancient Ancestral South Indian, i.e. [122] Ancient literary works, such as the Cilappatikaram, describe a system of music. The final -n and -m represent singular and plural. Aryans and Dravidians have different accents. Ira-q means land of rivers, and also, we have a name for a river, Iravati. The mingling among the people produced a community called Coloreds. Six languages are currently recognized by India as Classical languages and four of them are Dravidian languages Tamil, Telugu, Kannada and Malayalam. Between the three of them, they have produced world's alphabets, excluding the Chinese and the related ones. Web-Dravidians are not very well-versed in Hindi. Kenneth C Davis, in his book, Don't Know Much About History (Pub 1990), points out the European behavior as follows: 'Although, Hitler's attempted extermination of the Jews of Europe was a calculated, methodical genocidal plan, the European destruction of the Indians (Amerindians) was just as ruthlessly efficiently killing off perhaps 90% of the native population it found, all in the name of progress,civilization and Christianity'. Was the mingling with the 'war-like Aryans (Van Loon)' voluntary or forced? [117][118][119] Traditional Dravidian architecture and symbolism are also based on Agamas. [82][80][83][84], Ancient Tamil grammatical works Tolkappiyam, the ten anthologies Pattuppu, and the eight anthologies Euttokai shed light on early ancient Dravidian religion. The object of the AIT was to demean the Indians. Ben, thank you for pointing out that the intellectuals have rejected the Aryan Invasion Theory (AIT), and I do hope that is the case. They had figures of humans and animals and a very short inscription of a few letters each, in an UNKNOWN script, which has been called the Indus or Harappan script. Once, it was decided among the wise and the learned that, as it has become necessary, Agatsya Muni should be authorized to locate an area where educational activities can be carried out, in safety and in peace. If instead the meaning human (or people) as represented in South Dravidian and in Telugu-Kurukh-Malto were taken as the original plural category in Proto-Dravidian, it would be difficult to think of the social and grammatical contexts that would induce a split of the meaning of people into the two meaningsmen and others (women, other animates, and things)that are found in Central Dravidian and South-Central Dravidian. It has a Priestly Decree, issued in 197 BC, inscribed in three scripts in two languages, one Greek and two Egyptian scripts. It has praised profusely, the river Sarasvati. These conquerors were not builders. He further states that 'these were people very much the type of our Scandinavian fore-fathers, hard-fighting, heavy-drinking folk, with a certain contempt for the short dark races they conquered, since they called them Dasus or Dasyus - squat creatures, very much as Hitler spoke of those dwarfs of Prague. Prof. M Witzel has shown great courage in agreeing this change. White skinned people of the world are late comers. Vedic Sapt-Rishis going around the world with their troupe of helpers, or 20 tribes from the East, only 12 reached its destination, or the westward movements of the Jews, Christians, Parsis, Aghakhanis from persecution, as well as Greeks, Romans and the Chinese coming to Takshila and Nalanda, followed by the children of Japheth and Shem to rule, must have left behind some genetic imprint that can be matched with our friends from the West. This indicates there has been no mix of foreign and local DNA. In History of the World, edited by W N Weech (Odhams Press- Pub. (2011), their research on lactose tolerance in India suggests that "the west Eurasian genetic contribution identified by Reich et al. (2019), early Dravidians formed as a mixture of Ancient Ancestral South Indians ("AASI" indigenous South Asian hunter-gatherers distan The authors found that the respective amounts of those ancestries varied significantly between individuals, and concluded that more samples are needed to get the full picture of Indian population history. The Coptics adopted Greek script and language. Dravidian speakers in southern India wear varied traditional costumes depending on their region, largely influenced by local customs and traditions. The Aryans shepherded the cattle as well as used horses to move around. [9], The origins of the Dravidians are a "very complex subject of research and debate. Other gods mentioned were Mayyon and Vaali, now identified with Krishna and Balarama, who are all major deities in Hinduism today. There is no bigger punishment for the Europeans and their hisptorians for creating such a FICTION to harm people of other race and their culture. [30] In Amaravati in present-day Andhra Pradesh there is an inscription referring to a Dhamila-vaniya (Tamil trader) datable to the 3rd century CE.
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