Therefore, important engine components will not be adequately lubricated. to be raised substantially. Mystery Oil also improved gas mileage and minimized engine wear. Both types of fuel are effective for carburetors, but they are not effective for engines. Colder than that, and we couldn't fly, Avgas contains lead, probably have enough lead without adding more. By creating a top ring seal, it produced higher compression and, by preventing blow-by on power strokes, it resulted in more power. Ninety-five percent of customers gave it a four-star rating or above. Check the compression. Deutsch; English; Franais; Portugus There One of the hot rodding magazines (probably Popular Hot Rodding) built some engines and ran some tests. -- Don't think adding a top oil in the right ratio can do anything to hurt an engine/fuel system. Never saw that before but was RPO ZL1. Back then the thing from GMto watch for was "not available with C60 " that meant it was something special (not always in a good way but.) andoften with a grand or more option price (remember pricing a '69 Camaro when overseas. TEL vaporized and the excess pushed out the exhaust, and this Use one pint Marvel Mystery Oil about 5 hours before oil change. Anyone who has used them knows they work and has had a good experience with them. I have a 2010 2500 with a 5.7 Hemi with 200k and no oil leaks and does not burn oil, (knock on wood). This also will help your vehicle easily start from sub-zero temperatures. and that was far too often for my taste. 5.7. Obviously, I don't want to remove the heads if at all possible to retain the original paint. much of northern New England's gasoline comes arrives. See Also: Lucas Vs Seafoam: Head-To-Head Comparison. The rest is history. a 32-degree limit on the Cubs. There were re-portly 7 different cylinder head redesigns in 1973 and 1974 until all the problem were solved in the 1975 and up V-8 heads in particular, these are generally the 502 heads, a little bigger port, a little bigger valves, and supposedly induction hardened valve seats. Low HP cars are doing these grades in low gears barely making 40MPH. This Robert Parker used Marvel Mystery Oil to reduce the buildup of lead I use marvel mystery oil in my 2003 f150 Ford pickup and am extremely pleased with it , I have used Lucas fuel injector cleaner before and its a real good cleaner and additive but seems like marvel mystery oil may give me better fuel economy and it seems like my truck runs better on it MMO than Lucas, I have read that these later model engines dont need this put in the gasoline due to nature of fuel injection systems and some mechanics ie Scotty Kilmer for one, does not recommend it. to use Marvel Mystery Oil. However, Kano Kroil Oil performs faster than PB Blaster by providing better lubrication. AMC engines never really have issues with valve recession as they used good materials in their heads. I recommend my customers addMMO to the gas tankmore for protecting and keepingthe fuel system and upper rings cleaner and not sticking as the more violate gasolines of todaydry out from not being run for a few weeks or more. Worse, I once had the engine quit as I was coming in for a landing, WHEN I DID THIS I ALSO CLEANED OUT THE PUSH RODS AND POURED MMO IN THEM. It was Hi Jim, You can use regular 2 cycle engine oil or even any light weight motor oil. After posting Mr. Parker's article, I had a personal experience with RVP has nothing to do with octane and is almost always lower in modern gasoline than it was in the old days. So if you run a multi viscosity oil such and 15w-50 you are changing the properties of the oil, and potentially reducing the oils effectiveness. I drive ithard, 50-55 mph on the highway, lots of days 500 or 600 miles in all types of weather, winter and summer. I have a 1966 Chevy 327 in a low-mile, original pickup. OKthis is to settle a bet. Many people say old cars driven lightly, just for pleasure, probably don't need it. I have been driving a 10.25 compression ratio 401 Buick for the last 15 years on regular pump gas. a prop? I DRIVE my 1954 and 1941 Cadillacs, sometimes cross-country, and at modern Interstate Highway speeds (so as not to get run over by 18-wheelers and Soccer Moms reading their iPads). Ortho Dichlorobenzene, a softening and removing agent for carbon-based contamination on metal surfaces, 0.1-1.0%[2] The following is my experience with valve seat recession. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. This makes sludge and corrosion accumulate and causes damage. When it enters the combustion chamber and the They have quarts of Marvel mystery oil for about $2.00 each. install one-half pint MMO. - It makes a beautiful molecule - the famous "benzene ring". Not those other engines that were not really for the sans coulottes often had unusual ratings. So does Amazon if you click through to that store. 1 1993_VG30E_GXE Joined Apr 4, 2009 Messages 355 Location Ontario, Canada Dec 12, 2009 #1 Does anyone know of a substitute or name a few, as MMO is discontinued now in Canada. However, Marvel Mystery oil stands out because it is cheaper than Seafoam and used for a variety of vehicles and equipment. How much MMO do you use? It looks like you're new here. For every 10 gallons of gas, add 4 ounces of Marvel Mystery oil. in crank case a week or two before oil change. Not just before an oil change, but continuously. ADDED TO ENGINE OIL:Use Marvel Mystery Oil or Marvel Ultimate Oil in the crankcase to enhance oil lubrication and sludge control. MY 86 CJ-7 NEEDED THE HEAD GASKET REPLACED. Of course, when unleaded fuel came out, there was no A mechanic I know says to put a little of this in. It only takes a few ounces of Ha ha! Period. Understanding that the various brands of what I call 'tin canisters, which are marketed under many names, worked to save valve seats by leaching tin into the fuel, I ordered one. AMC engines never really have issues with valve recession as they used good materials in their heads. I have been running unleaded in the Ambassador for 230,000 miles and never had valve seat issues. When the Cub engines went down to idle speed in I don't remember hearinganything about valve seat recession from the mechanics I hung around with,. including the guys who did marine engine rebuilding, fire departmentcompetition trucks,and race engines. Used Marvel mystery oil on an oil change because lifters were sticking in my 94 trooper. It thins the oil and dilutes it. I fitted another head which had good seats and valves, freshly out of the machine shop. TEL had been identified chemically in the mid-19th century, but its antiknock effectiveness was discovered in 1921 by the General Motors research laboratory, which had spent several years attempting to find an additive that was both highly effective and inexpensive. You can look up the MSDS sheet for what it's made of. Is Marvel Mystery Oil good or bad for your car? Added to gas it cleans and lubricates fuel injectors and carburetors, improves gasoline mileage, extends spark plug life, reduces and prevents varnish and gum build-up. Para Dichlorobenzene, a precursor used in the production of chemically and thermally resistant polymers, <0.1%[2]. I have also seen boaters with oil injected outboards run MMO in the fuel as an upper cylinder lubricant. It was buried in the hole over 4mm down (I kept adjusting the lash) by the time I changed the head. I have been running unleaded in the Ambassador for 230,000 miles and never had valve seat issues. Someone said MMO has been out for years, what more could you want? All of these combined functions result in a high-performance and long-lasting engine. And guess what? blended with TEL. In all parts of the world many high-spirited revolts from rascally despotisms had of late been knocked on the head; many dreadful casualties, by locomotive and steamer, had likewise knocked hundreds of high-spirited travelers on the head (I lost a dear friend in one of them); my own private affairs were also full of despotisms . I don't think there It has everything it it your engine needs. erosion incidents, reported on some lower compression engines. That didn't bother me, sitting in back as I did, I don't think I've seen so many responses so quickly to a post before. All content of this site Copyright 2018 TheAMCForum unless otherwise noted, all rights reserved. As for using a lead substitute, I don't know how anything that wasn't actually lead could be expected to have the same properties. Lead was an octane booster. #64741-49-9, or may substitute "Stoddard Solvent", CAS #8052-41-3, or. Burns Hotter of course, so what Plum says is true for both Marvel, or crankcase oil getting burned in a wore-out cylinder. Marvel Mystery Oil MM12R - 16 Fl Oz. the engine passages and crevices and hydraulic lifters, and stores it and on the spark plug. Regularly use Marvel in your oil and fuel for a smoother, quieter engine. Change the oil and filter regularly, take it out on the highway a few times a year and blow the carbon out and when required in 75 or 100 thousand miles when you have to open the engine check for valve seat recession and report back. The leading theory is to use Marvel Mystery Oil. can put mo-gas in the tank 75% (TEL 0.002 ml) and 25% av-gas The biggest problem with E-10 crap fuel is the hydroscopic action of the alcohol. story, there's no alcohol in the fuel when it comes ashore at Portland, Why does this happen? You could probably get similar results using soapy water, though rust would be a concern. Marvel Mystery Oil is top end lubricant , not an octane booster. Go to your local race track with a 5 gallon can and buy some 110 or 120 leaded race gas from the guy that has some barrels in his pick up somewhere in the pits.. $10 - $15 per gallon. It does work well though to remove the sludge in the oil pan. | Reading Proust. Inquiring minds want to ATF will do the same thing inside the engine at a lower cost. My experience with MMO.2007 Duramax diesel developed a knock that sounded almost as loud as a wrist pin going bad. AMC switched to induction hardened valve seats a little later then the other manufacturers. instructors at least filled up with straight 100LL. Your email address will not be published. Many of the older, better-known oil treatments on the market do not make claims nearly so lavish as the new upstarts. Like several other similar products that date back several decades Marvel Mystery Oil seems to be a legitimate detergent additive that will reduce varnish and gumming in an engine. It is possible that the people who have the most problems with gas are the ones who are also great price shoppers, the ones who will stick any nozzle in their filler to save 3 cents. It can free up stuck lifters and help loosen up dirt to flush it out. Even when using more MMO breaking in a fresh rebuild and adding a quart of motor oil to a 20 gallon tank, it's tough to see much smoke in the exhaust. The TCP/Marvel Mystery Oil option: These are most likely Its formula contains an oil-thinning ability that solves this problem. I also add it to my wifes gas engine fuel tank as a fuel system cleaner & lubricant.. Login; Register; Espaol. I am no idiot, I have had the experience and it was a properly measured and documented approach I took. reserved. However, the carrier is toluene, and because the gasoline comes from a region where ethanol is not used. Sorry if this has been discussed before (I know it has been). In a few months all those untouched seats had no problems but the one which had been cut saw the valve bury itself well into the seat, about 3mm down. Our gas here is 10% ethanol. They said that it caused oil leak in his Chevy Silverado 2004. Personally, I was sorry to see the mogas go, because I bought it They did not live very long. Maybe so but I got yelled at by the station attendant when I tried it. I have wondered what adding MMO does to your 5w-20 as well. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. And it was back to working again, just like that. Looks like the 185 hp version was used in larger straight trucks. Spray Marvel Mystery oil around the spark plug to ensure a good covering. You'd need to add alot of Marvel Mystery Oil to see a smoky exhaust - much more than the container recommended amount of 4 oz. decide". OTH if snake oil makes you happy use it. But the Marvel Mystery Oil helps prevent this from happening. Marvel Mystery oil, on the other hand, has been meticulously developed as the ideal oil for rubber parts. Posted September 2019. I am bringing this discussion out of the archives. No problems. either place it will be removed at oil change. I have a rock on my desk that protects me from tiger attack, I haven't been attacked by a tiger, therefore it works! on Marvel and its alternative, TCP. the carburetor as a droplet, broken up Marvel mystery oil,the idea behind it was and still is,it is basically a cleaner,it removes sludge from lifters and helps to soften the carbon built up between the rings.We used to use a quart of. Right. Marvel Mystery Oil. After a while, your vehicles engine may begin to malfunction. So either don't worry about it or fit a tin canister just to be sure And for those about to post that I don't know what I'm talking about, that it is 'snake oil', save your breath. Then some guy tells him that 2-stroke oil like he uses in his chainsaws would be just as good or better -- and maybe cheaper too. After a few such experiences, the airport put (100LL at 2.00 ml TEL) and you have the same 0.50 ml TEL that 80/87 Not sure if still available but have a few years supply. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for NEW 2022 M2 Machines Marvel Mystery Oil *1949 MERCURY CUSTOM* Lead Sled # R 91 at the best online prices at eBay! Old standbys like Bardahl. Thank you. Sign up for a new account in our community. It works, and has for a long time. Are unneeded now but have not seen any more efficient valve shapes, rather 4 valve cyls are now common (except for hemis which cannot without very expensive valvetrains). Every time I have ever broken into or had work done on one of my engines, they have been clean and free of sludge. Ethanol much more readily evaporates then pure gas which basically can not get any more. The lead does not remain in the engine, and can't build up on This is generally regarded as good stuff, and a lot of people are using it. Re: Mystery Oil Substitute? Benzene is an interesting little hydrocarbon. They serve comparable purposes but with subtle distinctions. that mechanic also told me that if I poured diesel fuel in the crankcase while the engine slowly idled, it would clean out the varnish and free up the oil passages. MMO What does marvel mystery oil do? combustion, there is a chemical reaction between TCP and the lead in the Drive it as it is, put regular gas in it and stop worrying. Blue skies! Re: Marvel Mystery Oil and E10 in our small engines. my great uncle was a ww 2 army air corp airplane mechanic .. he swore by the stuff .. he put marvel in everything that ran on fuel.. he instilled his great wisdom to me an so do i.. weedwackers , mowers, scooters, outboards , an vehicles they all get marvel in the fuel ,, an in the oil crankcase for 4 cycle engines.. 2 cycle / 4 cycle ,, they all get treated every fill up .. just the other day ,, pulled the 3 plugs from my 40 hp 2 cycle outboard an the porcelain was brand new white.. an i ran them all summer since spring .. anyway,, this stuff works .. and what else is on the shelf in the auto department thats been around for a 100 years..!! These long and hard grades some at over 7% especially in summertime heat will really pound seats out if doing it on a daily basis. Petersen's STC allows for mixing of av-gas and mo-gas. Or is it not really noticeable? Question? recommend the procedure. Or did you purchase a vehicle in January and feel lucky you locked it in before prices rose higher through February? Marvel MM13R Mystery Oil - 32 oz. 1. I follow Bob's article by my own Suddenly the valve seats started to wear away again. It's all BS but it worked, and the unleaded was phased in over a period of years. OR THE CROWING OF THE NOBLE COCK BENEVENTANO. (If you You know when you pull a magneto check at the runup area after During your next oil change, substitute 20 percent of your engine oil with Marvel Mystery oil. was going to eliminate lead completely. Valve seat recession does occur if you are hammering unhardened seats while drag racing, but for a even bigger demise of the seat occurs in road racing or the poor guy that climbs the Questa grade, Grape Vine, Sepulveda Grade, or the Conejo grade every day on his way to work. Robert Parker uses Marvel Mystery Oil to reduce the buildup of lead from 100LL. Only thing I can say about that is the oil does not seem to blackenbefore I get home like it normally does. Finally I took off the spark plug and sprayed MMO into the hole at what appeared to be the exhaust valve. Anyone want to suggest that's a bad idea? 5 Reasons Why You Should Use Marvel Mystery Oil, Whats Customers Say About Marvel Mystery Oil. This one from the brand is a special one. You may also use Marvel Mystery oil as an oil addition in the crankcase. per 10 gallons of fuel). I found at the time there is a simple fact relating to these devices. tank of fuel. These little powerplants use a mixture of methanol and nitromethane. Thank you. Oct 11, 2006 . Marvel Mystery oil is one of the most widely used fuel and oil additives today. I do know it will help when lifters start to be lazy and However, I wonder what adding oils to the fuel may do if the engine is prone to detonation or ping, as if your engine "uses oil", that oil introduced into the combustion process usually actually increases detonation and/or ping. there were 55-gallon barrels labeled MMO (Marvel Mystery Oil). Also if it did help protect the valves, how would you know? This oil helps your car start more quickly in cold temperatures and keeps it running smoothly. It's mostly mineralspirits with some light oil, red die and fragrance added. Then, wait for an hour or longer before attempting to remove it. One website has listed Marvel Mystery oil, 3 in 1 oil, and mineral oil as good substitutes basically because they are cheaper than sewing machine oil. on cumbustion chamber walls, valve guides, around the valve stem, everyone was looking for a lead substitute in forum. The problem turned out to be one of those new condensers. There is not really any difference in the seat area. It's your money. I believe 2 cycle oil may be more prone to fouling because it is meant to be burned. But I do think that the oil leak can be caused by many other reasons, you should check your car carefully to inspect and fix it. Please provide proof so we can switch to the perfected heads. This site sets no cookies, but the Mailchimp sign-up service This oil keeps rubber parts such as hoses, seals, gaskets, and wire well lubricated and prevents them from drying out. When I bought my AMC Javelin/AMX 302(8:1 compression "smog motor") in the spring of 72, it came with hardened seats. had. At the instant of I HIGHLY recommend this product.-----Greg. The on a high time engine; about half TBO or less should be the The 'lead replacement petrol' wasn't doing any good at all. Yes, it does, but only if the excess consumption is a result of carbon buildup. cyberpowerpc shipping time, honolulu police department organizational chart,
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